truth?

in response to and inspired by a blogger friend’s post:

whatever is truth
when you are not
saying it

see:

https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/106476380/posts/3461944264

~ by Barbara S on July 23, 2021.

8 Responses to “truth?”

  1. thank you for ‘like’ – a thought: after I had written this and published it, I realised that could be that native speakers of English might expect ‘speak the truth’ – as in speak truth to power, speak your truth etc.
    However, I decided to leave ‘say’ as it has a slightly different ring to it ‘say what’s on your mind’…

  2. Thanks a lot, dear Barbara.
    Is truth worth anything when not expressed? In a way I have the feeling truth has to do with communication, it’s a structure of communication. There isn’t any truth if it’s not expressed?
    Thanks for sharing
    The Fab Four of Cley
    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    • thanks for responding Klausbernd. There are lots of aspects to this. As I put in the comments for one thing, there is a subtle difference between speaking and saying (for the native speaker of Eng (my first language is German) – but more importantly – what was on my mind: eg the potentially toxic politeness of neurotypicals not to speak their mind (less common among Germans :-P). And then there is the heightened obligation under oath to say the whole truth etc… which I relate to a stage of consciousness heightened by awareness (taking religion out of it)… so much for now; RL is calling 🙂 – and what is truth anyway – a blogger friend of mine says what he gifts his trilingual daughter with his native Engl is to love the complexity of truth; I love that.

      • Hi Barbara,
        we are a mixture of Norwegian and German native speakers. We have studied linguistics of Germanic languages and especially their semantics. The problem with truth is hat we can’t define it. Well, it’s an ideal that means it’s not real.
        Thanks for sharing
        The Fab Four of Cley
        🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

      • I am not quite as relativistically-minded perhaps; asking whose truth is it, in whose interest is is bent/spoken or inhibited? Grounded hermeneutic isn’t a definition but it get’s a bit closer than Wittgenstein would have allowed to think?

    • PS playing with where does truth go when not spoken – tempting but beyond my philosophy grades, I am afraid. 🙂

      • Hi Barbara,
        well, philosophy of language has a long tradition in German speaking philosophy, Herder, Humboldt, Frege and Carnap, Cassirer and Wittgeinstein, but Heidegger und Benjamin as well. But we were more influenced by the French (neo) structuralism like Lacan.
        Anyway, keep well
        The Fab Four of Cley
        🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

      • I am shaking in my social worker boots vis-a-vis a true academic 😉 PS Wasn’t Wittgenstein rather a Brit in his thinking? I feel another piece on truth coming on. Watch this space.

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